1 00:00:04,230 --> 00:00:11,589 [Music] 2 00:00:14,990 --> 00:00:13,490 hi everyone 3 00:00:16,670 --> 00:00:15,000 um I'm just going to make a quick note 4 00:00:18,590 --> 00:00:16,680 before we start that it's great to be an 5 00:00:19,970 --> 00:00:18,600 astrobiology conference because the 6 00:00:22,790 --> 00:00:19,980 background slides are going to go much 7 00:00:24,349 --> 00:00:22,800 more smoothly I presented the sort of 8 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:24,359 microscopy conference a few months back 9 00:00:29,689 --> 00:00:27,840 and it was a different experience so 10 00:00:31,250 --> 00:00:29,699 thank you all for being here 11 00:00:32,810 --> 00:00:31,260 um and being you 12 00:00:34,729 --> 00:00:32,820 um so 13 00:00:36,049 --> 00:00:34,739 um I'm going to talk uh this is going to 14 00:00:38,270 --> 00:00:36,059 be a little bit of a pivot from some of 15 00:00:40,970 --> 00:00:38,280 the previous talks but I'm going to talk 16 00:00:45,049 --> 00:00:40,980 um about some of the methods that I've 17 00:00:49,010 --> 00:00:45,059 been working on to actually detect life 18 00:00:51,650 --> 00:00:49,020 on a mission a life detection mission to 19 00:00:53,330 --> 00:00:51,660 Europa or Enceladus I'm also going to 20 00:00:56,689 --> 00:00:53,340 make a note so I'm going to be talking 21 00:00:58,490 --> 00:00:56,699 about uh a life life detection missions 22 00:01:02,150 --> 00:00:58,500 to Europa and Enceladus as a target for 23 00:01:03,410 --> 00:01:02,160 this but um once you have a space 24 00:01:05,090 --> 00:01:03,420 capable microscope this could 25 00:01:06,410 --> 00:01:05,100 potentially be applied to like all sorts 26 00:01:08,450 --> 00:01:06,420 of destinations so there's lots of fun 27 00:01:11,210 --> 00:01:08,460 possibilities here 28 00:01:13,730 --> 00:01:11,220 the aforementioned background slides so 29 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:13,740 um when we're picking destinations to 30 00:01:15,890 --> 00:01:15,119 look for life 31 00:01:18,410 --> 00:01:15,900 um 32 00:01:20,149 --> 00:01:18,420 there's uh we like to look for places 33 00:01:22,730 --> 00:01:20,159 that have habitable conditions things 34 00:01:26,749 --> 00:01:22,740 that have liquid water abundant energy 35 00:01:29,390 --> 00:01:26,759 sources and conditions that are suitable 36 00:01:31,850 --> 00:01:29,400 for uh Life as we know it or as we might 37 00:01:33,950 --> 00:01:31,860 predict it may exist and 38 00:01:35,210 --> 00:01:33,960 um I'm just gonna let Enceladus and 39 00:01:36,770 --> 00:01:35,220 Europa sit up there because we've 40 00:01:38,990 --> 00:01:36,780 already heard a lot of justifications as 41 00:01:40,550 --> 00:01:39,000 to why those are promising targets to 42 00:01:42,050 --> 00:01:40,560 find those conditions and why we might 43 00:01:45,530 --> 00:01:42,060 have had 44 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:45,540 um an uh origin of life or uh living 45 00:01:50,749 --> 00:01:48,240 organisms currently there 46 00:01:51,950 --> 00:01:50,759 um but when we're searching for life we 47 00:01:54,170 --> 00:01:51,960 also have to think about how we're 48 00:01:55,910 --> 00:01:54,180 actually going to look for it and so 49 00:01:58,670 --> 00:01:55,920 um we can kind of break down life into 50 00:02:02,630 --> 00:01:58,680 some of the key components that make it 51 00:02:04,749 --> 00:02:02,640 up things like uh catalysts that help it 52 00:02:07,550 --> 00:02:04,759 uh metabolize 53 00:02:09,589 --> 00:02:07,560 things like information storage polymers 54 00:02:10,609 --> 00:02:09,599 so DNA or RNA and earth-based life and 55 00:02:12,530 --> 00:02:10,619 that might look very different for 56 00:02:16,369 --> 00:02:12,540 extraterrestrial life 57 00:02:18,830 --> 00:02:16,379 um and also compartments life on on 58 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:18,840 Earth Life as we know it loves to put 59 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:21,360 things inside of membranes and then 60 00:02:25,790 --> 00:02:23,520 sometimes they put those membranes 61 00:02:28,610 --> 00:02:25,800 inside other membranes and have them 62 00:02:30,890 --> 00:02:28,620 connect to other even more membranes but 63 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:30,900 those that packaging really helps it do 64 00:02:37,369 --> 00:02:33,840 some interesting chemistry 65 00:02:40,190 --> 00:02:37,379 um and so when we're then thinking about 66 00:02:43,009 --> 00:02:40,200 this in the context of a mission 67 00:02:44,869 --> 00:02:43,019 um we can start to think about how we 68 00:02:46,910 --> 00:02:44,879 might actually observe that and what 69 00:02:48,589 --> 00:02:46,920 analytical approaches we need to take to 70 00:02:51,589 --> 00:02:48,599 try and get at that 71 00:02:52,670 --> 00:02:51,599 um and so I put the like giant table up 72 00:02:55,369 --> 00:02:52,680 here 73 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:55,379 um because uh these are all things that 74 00:02:59,390 --> 00:02:57,120 people are working on 75 00:03:01,670 --> 00:02:59,400 um for Life detection instrumentation 76 00:03:03,770 --> 00:03:01,680 but we're going to be focusing for this 77 00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:03,780 talk on containers 78 00:03:08,030 --> 00:03:05,280 um and so 79 00:03:10,790 --> 00:03:08,040 um the reason for that is 80 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:10,800 um that again as mentioned life loves to 81 00:03:14,690 --> 00:03:13,200 package things into compartments and 82 00:03:18,050 --> 00:03:14,700 those compartments can be directly 83 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:18,060 observable by using a microscope to look 84 00:03:23,630 --> 00:03:20,879 for morphology and also for the 85 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:23,640 collocalization of certain key chemical 86 00:03:26,270 --> 00:03:25,680 biomarkers 87 00:03:28,970 --> 00:03:26,280 um 88 00:03:32,030 --> 00:03:28,980 so in 89 00:03:33,710 --> 00:03:32,040 um our team we're working on um a 90 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:33,720 microscopy system that we call a 91 00:03:37,009 --> 00:03:35,760 luminescence imager for exploration or 92 00:03:39,290 --> 00:03:37,019 life 93 00:03:42,770 --> 00:03:39,300 um and there is uh two key hardware 94 00:03:44,930 --> 00:03:42,780 components of this system one is the 95 00:03:46,190 --> 00:03:44,940 fluidic subsystem and this is to deal 96 00:03:48,410 --> 00:03:46,200 with 97 00:03:51,770 --> 00:03:48,420 um the actual sample processing and 98 00:03:53,509 --> 00:03:51,780 preparation for Imaging something so um 99 00:03:55,250 --> 00:03:53,519 my background full disclosure is 100 00:03:58,130 --> 00:03:55,260 actually not an astrobiology it's in 101 00:04:00,410 --> 00:03:58,140 fluorescence microscopy and 102 00:04:02,630 --> 00:04:00,420 um you know I spent like five or six 103 00:04:05,030 --> 00:04:02,640 years in grad school just moving fluids 104 00:04:06,830 --> 00:04:05,040 around in tubes and like preparing 105 00:04:09,470 --> 00:04:06,840 things on slides before they actually 106 00:04:10,850 --> 00:04:09,480 get to the microscope I've been told it 107 00:04:14,089 --> 00:04:10,860 would be expensive to send me to 108 00:04:15,470 --> 00:04:14,099 Enceladus so uh this is this is my 109 00:04:18,110 --> 00:04:15,480 replacement 110 00:04:20,210 --> 00:04:18,120 um and then the other end is the actual 111 00:04:21,830 --> 00:04:20,220 microscope itself so the optic system 112 00:04:22,909 --> 00:04:21,840 which is going to have all of the things 113 00:04:25,010 --> 00:04:22,919 that you need to actually take your 114 00:04:27,409 --> 00:04:25,020 pretty pictures 115 00:04:29,629 --> 00:04:27,419 um so I'm gonna break down what goes 116 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:29,639 into these systems a little bit so the 117 00:04:35,030 --> 00:04:33,120 fluidic subsystem that uh like uh silver 118 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:35,040 plate on top 119 00:04:42,530 --> 00:04:39,120 um is the rotary filter stage and so the 120 00:04:44,930 --> 00:04:42,540 um the stage can do seven individual 121 00:04:46,850 --> 00:04:44,940 experiments um and so that accounts for 122 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:46,860 originally this was designed with the 123 00:04:50,810 --> 00:04:48,960 Europa Lander Mission Concept in mind 124 00:04:53,930 --> 00:04:50,820 where there would be three separate 125 00:04:56,749 --> 00:04:53,940 samples each with a replicate and then a 126 00:04:59,090 --> 00:04:56,759 procedural blank and then each of those 127 00:04:59,770 --> 00:04:59,100 individually has 128 00:05:04,730 --> 00:04:59,780 um 129 00:05:07,730 --> 00:05:04,740 three uh filters of different sizes 130 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:07,740 um and so uh that basically will let you 131 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:10,020 sort out particles so the filters are 10 132 00:05:16,010 --> 00:05:13,199 microns 1.2 microns and uh 0.2 microns 133 00:05:18,650 --> 00:05:16,020 in size and that's just so you don't end 134 00:05:19,850 --> 00:05:18,660 up with larger particles obscuring any 135 00:05:21,890 --> 00:05:19,860 of the smaller particles that you're 136 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:21,900 trying to image in your sample 137 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:24,960 um and that way you're not missing any 138 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:27,840 of the like good stuff that might be 139 00:05:29,450 --> 00:05:28,800 there 140 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:29,460 um 141 00:05:33,230 --> 00:05:31,680 there you use all it's also attached to 142 00:05:34,730 --> 00:05:33,240 the fluidix manifold which is the part 143 00:05:37,550 --> 00:05:34,740 that actually moves all of the liquids 144 00:05:40,689 --> 00:05:37,560 and fluids around and it also has a lot 145 00:05:44,570 --> 00:05:40,699 of sensors for pressure pH conductivity 146 00:05:46,550 --> 00:05:44,580 and also crucially some storage for the 147 00:05:47,930 --> 00:05:46,560 fluorescent stains that I'm going to be 148 00:05:49,550 --> 00:05:47,940 talking about a little bit later in the 149 00:05:50,450 --> 00:05:49,560 talk 150 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:50,460 um 151 00:05:54,650 --> 00:05:52,800 and then these were the filters that I 152 00:05:57,050 --> 00:05:54,660 mentioned earlier and so uh this is 153 00:05:59,510 --> 00:05:57,060 again for sample size sorting but 154 00:06:01,070 --> 00:05:59,520 they're also made of a silicon nitrate 155 00:06:02,629 --> 00:06:01,080 substrate that has a low fluorescence 156 00:06:06,350 --> 00:06:02,639 background 157 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:06,360 um and this whole system has passed 158 00:06:12,290 --> 00:06:08,880 Environmental Testing so um one thing 159 00:06:15,230 --> 00:06:12,300 about microscopes and also uh you know 160 00:06:17,469 --> 00:06:15,240 fluid fluidix has a fair bit of space 161 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:17,479 flight Heritage but in general Hardware 162 00:06:22,490 --> 00:06:20,400 uh can break and I'm sure everyone who's 163 00:06:24,590 --> 00:06:22,500 worked in a lab is dealt with a lot of 164 00:06:26,150 --> 00:06:24,600 like issues before so you want to make 165 00:06:27,529 --> 00:06:26,160 sure these things are robust and you can 166 00:06:29,870 --> 00:06:27,539 actually get it to where you want to 167 00:06:33,890 --> 00:06:29,880 launch it to 168 00:06:37,790 --> 00:06:33,900 um the optic subsystem is a nice small 169 00:06:39,350 --> 00:06:37,800 compact box and so um this is a 10 170 00:06:43,850 --> 00:06:39,360 centimeter by 10 centimeter by 13 171 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:43,860 centimeter Cube I have uh an image on my 172 00:06:47,330 --> 00:06:45,600 phone that I didn't upload to the 173 00:06:49,790 --> 00:06:47,340 presentation because the image quality 174 00:06:53,749 --> 00:06:49,800 is not that good but for context that's 175 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:53,759 about as tall as a banana which is very 176 00:06:59,150 --> 00:06:56,160 small for like a benchtop fluorescence 177 00:07:01,850 --> 00:06:59,160 microscope um there is like fancier 178 00:07:04,129 --> 00:07:01,860 microscopes can sometimes be like the 179 00:07:05,870 --> 00:07:04,139 size of of a person if you're trying to 180 00:07:07,670 --> 00:07:05,880 do crazy like two Photon lifetime 181 00:07:09,890 --> 00:07:07,680 Imaging or something but even an Epi 182 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:09,900 fluorescent scope would probably occupy 183 00:07:13,550 --> 00:07:12,000 like this Podium normally and there'd be 184 00:07:15,950 --> 00:07:13,560 a lot of like miscellaneous kind of 185 00:07:18,409 --> 00:07:15,960 assorted parts so it's a really nice 186 00:07:20,510 --> 00:07:18,419 little system 187 00:07:23,390 --> 00:07:20,520 and so that contains all of the 188 00:07:24,890 --> 00:07:23,400 excitation LEDs emission filters all the 189 00:07:27,710 --> 00:07:24,900 Optics 190 00:07:30,409 --> 00:07:27,720 um and so uh this table is just kind of 191 00:07:33,170 --> 00:07:30,419 going through what the different uh bits 192 00:07:36,589 --> 00:07:33,180 of Hardware that we have are and 193 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:36,599 um to kind of like give the the the high 194 00:07:42,409 --> 00:07:38,880 level Summary of why this is relevant 195 00:07:44,210 --> 00:07:42,419 um basically we have three LEDs that are 196 00:07:46,730 --> 00:07:44,220 common excitation wavelengths for 197 00:07:48,170 --> 00:07:46,740 different fluorescent stains that can 198 00:07:50,749 --> 00:07:48,180 also excite different types of 199 00:07:52,909 --> 00:07:50,759 autofluorescence and then 200 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:52,919 um one thing that's actually relatively 201 00:07:56,930 --> 00:07:55,680 unique to this microscope certainly no 202 00:07:59,629 --> 00:07:56,940 microscopes I've worked with previously 203 00:08:01,610 --> 00:07:59,639 have had this is the 275 nanometer LED 204 00:08:03,409 --> 00:08:01,620 so that's actually fairly far in the 205 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:03,419 ultraviolet range 206 00:08:08,529 --> 00:08:05,460 um and that's really good at exciting 207 00:08:11,870 --> 00:08:08,539 protein fluorescence so uh tryptophan 208 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:11,880 phenylalanine the various aromatic amino 209 00:08:16,730 --> 00:08:14,160 acid side chains actually fluoresce 210 00:08:18,409 --> 00:08:16,740 quite brightly in the ultraviolet and so 211 00:08:21,469 --> 00:08:18,419 that can help image native fluorescent 212 00:08:24,050 --> 00:08:21,479 of samples and also excite the 213 00:08:25,369 --> 00:08:24,060 fluorescence of many different kinds of 214 00:08:26,710 --> 00:08:25,379 minerals 215 00:08:31,309 --> 00:08:26,720 um 216 00:08:32,570 --> 00:08:31,319 the objective is also set up to help uh 217 00:08:35,209 --> 00:08:32,580 well it's 218 00:08:37,250 --> 00:08:35,219 robust a space flight but also the part 219 00:08:39,350 --> 00:08:37,260 that I think is super fun is that it 220 00:08:41,449 --> 00:08:39,360 most objectives actually can't collect 221 00:08:43,010 --> 00:08:41,459 light in that ultraviolet range 222 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:43,020 um so it is a custom objective that's 223 00:08:48,590 --> 00:08:46,320 built for those sorts of experiments 224 00:08:52,190 --> 00:08:48,600 um it has a Piezo stage that lets us do 225 00:08:54,410 --> 00:08:52,200 automated Z stacking and this is also 226 00:08:57,170 --> 00:08:54,420 been subjected to environmental and 227 00:08:58,730 --> 00:08:57,180 shock and vibrational testing and also 228 00:09:00,650 --> 00:08:58,740 radiation testing 229 00:09:02,990 --> 00:09:00,660 um to the specifications of the Europa 230 00:09:08,329 --> 00:09:03,000 Lander mission 231 00:09:10,070 --> 00:09:08,339 so um we're now on our ongoing work is 232 00:09:13,250 --> 00:09:10,080 actually characterizing this microscope 233 00:09:16,190 --> 00:09:13,260 by Imaging different types of samples to 234 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:16,200 see what the the the limits are of what 235 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:18,959 we can detect so um this sample is just 236 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:20,700 kind of showing uh some of the bright 237 00:09:24,530 --> 00:09:23,040 some bright field images from a sample 238 00:09:27,769 --> 00:09:24,540 that was collected from Lake undersea in 239 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:27,779 Antarctica and so um I'm showing here 240 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:30,480 the 10 Micron and 1.2 Micron filters to 241 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:33,600 kind of highlight that um we can image 242 00:09:38,810 --> 00:09:36,480 the the objects at 243 00:09:42,170 --> 00:09:38,820 um of very different sizes and you can 244 00:09:44,269 --> 00:09:42,180 see the physical uh size of the little 245 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:44,279 uh holes there 246 00:09:51,650 --> 00:09:48,240 um and so if we were to just put this 247 00:09:53,870 --> 00:09:51,660 all onto one filter that microbial matte 248 00:09:55,490 --> 00:09:53,880 looking thing on the the 249 00:09:57,290 --> 00:09:55,500 your left 250 00:09:59,150 --> 00:09:57,300 um would probably obscure some of the 251 00:10:01,370 --> 00:09:59,160 smaller objects that we're seeing in the 252 00:10:01,910 --> 00:10:01,380 other filter sizes 253 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:01,920 um 254 00:10:04,910 --> 00:10:03,360 and so 255 00:10:07,250 --> 00:10:04,920 um as I mentioned earlier we can also 256 00:10:08,509 --> 00:10:07,260 excite native fluorescence and so we can 257 00:10:10,670 --> 00:10:08,519 correlate this as well with the bright 258 00:10:12,290 --> 00:10:10,680 field images so we can take an image of 259 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:12,300 an object say oh hey that looks 260 00:10:17,509 --> 00:10:15,360 interesting I wonder what that is look 261 00:10:18,829 --> 00:10:17,519 at the you know native fluorescence in 262 00:10:21,009 --> 00:10:18,839 different ranges and get a sense of okay 263 00:10:23,269 --> 00:10:21,019 wait we've got a bunch of like 264 00:10:25,009 --> 00:10:23,279 Organics that are fluorescing in the UV 265 00:10:27,970 --> 00:10:25,019 range that are all localized on this 266 00:10:31,790 --> 00:10:27,980 object that's pretty exciting 267 00:10:33,949 --> 00:10:31,800 and then we can also then stain the 268 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:33,959 sample with fluorescent stains to look 269 00:10:39,130 --> 00:10:36,000 for more specific chemical signatures 270 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:39,140 and so in this case I'm showing the same 271 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:42,000 sample after it's been treated with a 272 00:10:47,870 --> 00:10:44,820 stain for primary amines and another one 273 00:10:50,690 --> 00:10:47,880 that stains lipids and so we can look 274 00:10:53,530 --> 00:10:50,700 for both the presence of those molecules 275 00:10:56,630 --> 00:10:53,540 but also their co-localization in space 276 00:10:58,190 --> 00:10:56,640 and this is a really like unique and 277 00:11:00,590 --> 00:10:58,200 Powerful kind of data that you can get 278 00:11:02,690 --> 00:11:00,600 from the microscope is not just like 279 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:02,700 what compounds are there but seeing that 280 00:11:06,889 --> 00:11:04,620 they're associating with each other kind 281 00:11:10,030 --> 00:11:06,899 of gives you a good piece of evidence 282 00:11:12,050 --> 00:11:10,040 that you might be seeing some 283 00:11:15,230 --> 00:11:12,060 disequilibrium and some living 284 00:11:19,850 --> 00:11:18,350 um microscopy data is also 285 00:11:24,590 --> 00:11:19,860 large 286 00:11:26,750 --> 00:11:24,600 types of data that we've talked about in 287 00:11:29,150 --> 00:11:26,760 this conference so far but certainly 288 00:11:31,730 --> 00:11:29,160 large enough that if you were trying to 289 00:11:34,370 --> 00:11:31,740 send all of this data back from Europa 290 00:11:38,389 --> 00:11:34,380 or Enceladus it would be more 291 00:11:40,069 --> 00:11:38,399 complicated to handle and so one of the 292 00:11:44,810 --> 00:11:40,079 things that we're able to do on this 293 00:11:48,829 --> 00:11:44,820 microscope is actually take a z-stack of 294 00:11:51,230 --> 00:11:48,839 of images and compress it down to a 295 00:11:53,990 --> 00:11:51,240 single image that's much less in data 296 00:11:56,210 --> 00:11:54,000 volume and so the image I'm showing 297 00:11:59,030 --> 00:11:56,220 right now is 298 00:12:00,350 --> 00:11:59,040 um an image set of images that were 299 00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:00,360 automatically collected at different 300 00:12:04,250 --> 00:12:02,880 focal planes in the sample 301 00:12:06,290 --> 00:12:04,260 um and then after it's run through the 302 00:12:08,690 --> 00:12:06,300 compression routine you end up with a 303 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:08,700 single in Focus image and you're now 304 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:11,760 suddenly gone from megabytes of data to 305 00:12:15,410 --> 00:12:13,740 kilobytes of data 306 00:12:18,710 --> 00:12:15,420 um and then 307 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:18,720 um you can even go further with that and 308 00:12:24,350 --> 00:12:22,560 you'll notice that this sample has uh 309 00:12:26,750 --> 00:12:24,360 bright objects against a dark background 310 00:12:28,970 --> 00:12:26,760 we don't actually care what the like 311 00:12:30,829 --> 00:12:28,980 Photon shot noise is on the background 312 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:30,839 for our purposes that might as well just 313 00:12:35,269 --> 00:12:33,240 all be zero and so the final compression 314 00:12:37,910 --> 00:12:35,279 step is actually taking that and setting 315 00:12:40,130 --> 00:12:37,920 it to zero and so we're just recording 316 00:12:42,650 --> 00:12:40,140 um the actual bright objects that are 317 00:12:44,030 --> 00:12:42,660 detected in the image and so that all 318 00:12:45,470 --> 00:12:44,040 reduces the data size quite 319 00:12:47,569 --> 00:12:45,480 substantially 320 00:12:49,129 --> 00:12:47,579 um without really getting rid of any of 321 00:12:52,190 --> 00:12:49,139 the information that we actually want to 322 00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:54,889 um so how would this work in in a 323 00:12:57,290 --> 00:12:56,160 mission I just talked about a lot of 324 00:12:59,449 --> 00:12:57,300 different parts and now I'm going to 325 00:13:01,670 --> 00:12:59,459 bring it all back together into how this 326 00:13:05,509 --> 00:13:01,680 system could be implemented 327 00:13:07,069 --> 00:13:05,519 um so and I have the little Europa 328 00:13:10,129 --> 00:13:07,079 Lander picture there 329 00:13:12,230 --> 00:13:10,139 um but basically uh we pretend that the 330 00:13:14,930 --> 00:13:12,240 microscope is somewhere in that Lander 331 00:13:17,509 --> 00:13:14,940 um you would take your sample process it 332 00:13:19,670 --> 00:13:17,519 pump it through the fluidic system you 333 00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:19,680 can image it on the microscope you're 334 00:13:25,310 --> 00:13:22,320 going to end up with megabytes of data 335 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:25,320 that you can then compress back down to 336 00:13:30,290 --> 00:13:27,360 your kilobytes of data send it back to 337 00:13:32,509 --> 00:13:30,300 your ground-based Observer that will 338 00:13:34,610 --> 00:13:32,519 then be able to say oh okay cool we got 339 00:13:36,050 --> 00:13:34,620 a microbial mat on Europa time to hit 340 00:13:38,210 --> 00:13:36,060 the Press 341 00:13:42,350 --> 00:13:40,910 and so uh yeah just briefly 342 00:13:45,050 --> 00:13:42,360 acknowledgments there's been a lot of 343 00:13:47,329 --> 00:13:45,060 funding that's gone into this 344 00:14:02,150 --> 00:13:47,339 um and um I'll be happy to take any 345 00:14:06,710 --> 00:14:04,730 great talk uh this is Chad pazoriski at 346 00:14:08,569 --> 00:14:06,720 Georgia Tech so 347 00:14:10,610 --> 00:14:08,579 um I'm really happy that you touched on 348 00:14:12,350 --> 00:14:10,620 uh compression first of all uh of the 349 00:14:13,850 --> 00:14:12,360 data because that's incredibly important 350 00:14:16,009 --> 00:14:13,860 and 351 00:14:18,050 --> 00:14:16,019 um I was also really thrilled that you 352 00:14:19,310 --> 00:14:18,060 talked about the um sample prep and 353 00:14:20,509 --> 00:14:19,320 fluidics because I think that's 354 00:14:23,870 --> 00:14:20,519 something that a lot of people don't 355 00:14:26,329 --> 00:14:23,880 consider for these NCG missions uh my 356 00:14:29,389 --> 00:14:26,339 question has to do with 357 00:14:32,990 --> 00:14:29,399 um comparing uh microscopy and staining 358 00:14:35,389 --> 00:14:33,000 with uh perhaps something like Raman or 359 00:14:37,009 --> 00:14:35,399 IR where you could get information about 360 00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:37,019 at least functional groups of the 361 00:14:41,569 --> 00:14:38,880 Organics present and co-locate things 362 00:14:44,030 --> 00:14:41,579 that I imagine similar resolution 363 00:14:46,610 --> 00:14:44,040 spatially but you wouldn't need to 364 00:14:49,189 --> 00:14:46,620 include those processing steps so would 365 00:14:51,410 --> 00:14:49,199 you advocate for a system that's I guess 366 00:14:52,910 --> 00:14:51,420 maybe not redundant but but has both of 367 00:14:54,829 --> 00:14:52,920 those features or do you think one is 368 00:14:56,210 --> 00:14:54,839 better than the other yes this is 369 00:14:57,829 --> 00:14:56,220 actually a super interesting discussion 370 00:14:59,990 --> 00:14:57,839 and we can definitely also talk more 371 00:15:01,850 --> 00:15:00,000 about it at lunch but the the high level 372 00:15:03,610 --> 00:15:01,860 thing that I'm going to say is that um 373 00:15:07,009 --> 00:15:03,620 you you get 374 00:15:08,389 --> 00:15:07,019 you're going to have different pros and 375 00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:08,399 cons and get different types of data 376 00:15:12,829 --> 00:15:09,920 those techniques so if you're doing 377 00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:12,839 let's if you want to get spatially 378 00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:15,959 correlated Ramen data when you're 379 00:15:20,449 --> 00:15:17,279 building a microscope and you're trying 380 00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:20,459 to image something unless you're using a 381 00:15:25,189 --> 00:15:21,839 super resolution technique you're 382 00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:25,199 limited by diffraction in terms of like 383 00:15:29,870 --> 00:15:28,320 the the resolution that you can get and 384 00:15:31,490 --> 00:15:29,880 that is proportional to the wavelength 385 00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:31,500 that you're using so when you start to 386 00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:34,860 get into like the IR you know range and 387 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:36,480 things like that 388 00:15:41,930 --> 00:15:39,600 um your spatial resolution starts to be 389 00:15:44,930 --> 00:15:41,940 more limited than it is in the optical 390 00:15:47,090 --> 00:15:44,940 range the flip side is you're right you 391 00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:47,100 can get precise chemical information out 392 00:15:51,590 --> 00:15:48,240 without 393 00:15:55,670 --> 00:15:51,600 um you know adding labels and so I think 394 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:55,680 that definitely those are uh like 395 00:15:59,930 --> 00:15:57,600 in in in in the perfect mission 396 00:16:04,189 --> 00:15:59,940 architecture I think you do both 397 00:16:05,750 --> 00:16:04,199 um but you know and um unfortunate you 398 00:16:07,250 --> 00:16:05,760 know it's it's it's unfortunate that we 399 00:16:08,930 --> 00:16:07,260 can't send all the instruments that we 400 00:16:11,090 --> 00:16:08,940 want out there but like in my ideal 401 00:16:13,129 --> 00:16:11,100 world I think those that would be a 402 00:16:14,090 --> 00:16:13,139 powerful like correlative technique 403 00:16:17,090 --> 00:16:14,100 there 404 00:16:19,250 --> 00:16:17,100 um to kind of get a a strong sense of 405 00:16:25,069 --> 00:16:19,260 what you're seeing in your sample 406 00:16:25,079 --> 00:16:33,610 foreign 407 00:16:38,930 --> 00:16:37,069 again thanks for an awesome talk this is 408 00:16:40,850 --> 00:16:38,940 really exciting so I was wondering what 409 00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:40,860 sample prep looks like 410 00:16:46,610 --> 00:16:45,120 um in the Rover or whatever and um what 411 00:16:47,810 --> 00:16:46,620 the capabilities are for that so could 412 00:16:49,249 --> 00:16:47,820 you actually do like incubation 413 00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:49,259 experiments and then look at it with 414 00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:50,820 microscopy or is it coming straight from 415 00:16:53,150 --> 00:16:52,079 the environment going straight to the 416 00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:53,160 microscope 417 00:16:59,990 --> 00:16:56,880 yeah so um it's the 418 00:17:02,090 --> 00:17:00,000 the the design that we had in mind for 419 00:17:03,889 --> 00:17:02,100 for sample prep here and when I said I 420 00:17:06,230 --> 00:17:03,899 say we it's not 421 00:17:08,030 --> 00:17:06,240 um us this was kind of the built around 422 00:17:10,309 --> 00:17:08,040 the Europa Lander specifications but 423 00:17:12,169 --> 00:17:10,319 essentially you'd have a sample cup that 424 00:17:15,409 --> 00:17:12,179 would collect an ice sample and melt it 425 00:17:18,409 --> 00:17:15,419 down and so that was kind of the um 426 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:18,419 the initial like thoughts behind um the 427 00:17:22,309 --> 00:17:20,880 design here but the fluidics processing 428 00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:22,319 system can basically handle anything 429 00:17:25,069 --> 00:17:23,760 that's in a liquid state but the 430 00:17:28,909 --> 00:17:25,079 assumption would be that it's a 431 00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:28,919 relatively unprocessed field sample 432 00:17:33,230 --> 00:17:30,559 um 433 00:17:34,730 --> 00:17:33,240 relatively unprocessed because obviously 434 00:17:36,110 --> 00:17:34,740 if it's like ice or something and you're 435 00:17:38,090 --> 00:17:36,120 melting it down you are still doing 436 00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:38,100 something to that sample 437 00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:39,600 um 438 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,610 okay we have time for one more question 439 00:17:51,110 --> 00:17:49,850 hi thank you for the great talk 440 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:51,120 um 441 00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:54,000 my question is uh maybe I missed that 442 00:18:01,010 --> 00:17:57,120 you mentioned how 443 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:01,020 are you going to differentiate uh 444 00:18:04,970 --> 00:18:04,260 any other particles 445 00:18:08,930 --> 00:18:04,980 um 446 00:18:13,210 --> 00:18:08,940 from the living materials like can you 447 00:18:16,010 --> 00:18:13,220 specifically stain genetic material or 448 00:18:17,810 --> 00:18:16,020 anything biological 449 00:18:19,310 --> 00:18:17,820 yeah so that's actually that's a great 450 00:18:23,090 --> 00:18:19,320 question and 451 00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:23,100 um so the the the the goal here is to 452 00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:24,240 kind of pick up as many different 453 00:18:29,690 --> 00:18:27,120 breadcrumbs as you as as we can to try 454 00:18:31,130 --> 00:18:29,700 and uh differentiate and so you 455 00:18:32,630 --> 00:18:31,140 mentioned stains for genetic material 456 00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:32,640 one of the stains that we would be 457 00:18:36,049 --> 00:18:34,080 launching with this is a stain for 458 00:18:40,190 --> 00:18:36,059 nucleic acids 459 00:18:43,370 --> 00:18:40,200 um now obviously that would be really 460 00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:43,380 awesome if we found DNA on Europa or 461 00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:44,880 Enceladus but 462 00:18:48,289 --> 00:18:46,559 um there's it's kind of an open question 463 00:18:49,970 --> 00:18:48,299 whether we would 464 00:18:52,610 --> 00:18:49,980 um and 465 00:18:54,590 --> 00:18:52,620 um so the idea behind looking for the 466 00:18:57,289 --> 00:18:54,600 something like the co-localization of 467 00:19:00,950 --> 00:18:57,299 amines and lipids is that that gives you 468 00:19:02,330 --> 00:19:00,960 a more like agnostic idea of like hey 469 00:19:04,070 --> 00:19:02,340 that might be living material because 470 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:04,080 you've got these you know chemical 471 00:19:09,409 --> 00:19:06,480 signatures that are co-locating 472 00:19:10,610 --> 00:19:09,419 um the other thing is um so one of our 473 00:19:12,529 --> 00:19:10,620 um collaborators actually the person who 474 00:19:14,890 --> 00:19:12,539 helped build the microscope 475 00:19:17,810 --> 00:19:14,900 um is has some ongoing work 476 00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:17,820 characterizing the fluorescence of uh 477 00:19:22,130 --> 00:19:20,640 diff of a wide library of minerals to 478 00:19:23,870 --> 00:19:22,140 get a sense of like what they would 479 00:19:26,650 --> 00:19:23,880 potentially look like 480 00:19:29,690 --> 00:19:26,660 um on the the microscope so we can 481 00:19:30,830 --> 00:19:29,700 hopefully differentiate between that and 482 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:30,840 things that might be a little bit more 483 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:32,640 biological but spectroscopically and 484 00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:35,760 then also you know morphologically 485 00:19:40,190 --> 00:19:37,200 um 486 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:40,200 yeah a great question